Legislature(1995 - 1996)

03/19/1996 10:00 AM Senate FIN

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  SENATE BILL NO. 289                                                          
                                                                               
       An  Act  relating  to  runaway  minors  and  their                      
       families or legal custodians.                                           
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford directed  that SB 289 be  brought on for                 
  discussion.  Co-chairman Frank explained that, at a previous                 
  meeting, the committee  asked that the  Dept. of Law  review                 
  case  law on  the  constitutional  rights  of  minors.    He                 
  referenced the department's  March 18,  1996, memo (copy  on                 
  file in the  original file  for SB 289).   He further  noted                 
  that  the  department declined  to  comply with  a committee                 
  request  that it draft  a findings and  purposes section for                 
  the bill.   The Division of Legal Services therefore drafted                 
  the   requested   language   per   amendment   9-LS1635\M.1,                 
  Lauterbach, 3/19/96.                                                         
                                                                               
  Co-chairman   Frank   voiced   his   belief   there  is   no                 
  constitutional   question   associated  with   placement  of                 
  juveniles in  semi-secure facilities.   Co-chairman  Halford                 
  noted  that  advocates  of  the  legislation would  only  be                 
  "shortly satisfied with a semi-secure environment because it                 
  won't  work  either."   It  will  make the  situation  a bit                 
  better, but it will not provide a solution for problem kids.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford  voiced his belief that the Dept. of Law                 
  is not prepared to take  the necessary steps the legislature                 
  is inclined to  take because  it is  the legislature  rather                 
  than the department that has heard constituents complain for                 
  many years.                                                                  
                                                                               
  In response to a question from Senator Phillips, Co-chairman                 
  Halford reiterated that one cannot take the right to freedom                 
  away from  a status offender without  meeting constitutional                 
  guidelines.                                                                  
                                                                               
  JANINE  REEP,  Assistant Attorney  General,  Civil Division,                 
  Dept. of Law, came  before committee.  She advised  that she                 
  drafted  the  March  18,  1996,  memo  in  response  to  the                 
  committee request  for review  of case  law relating to  the                 
  placement of minors.   She explained that she did  not draft                 
  findings  and  purposes language  since  it generally  cites                 
  legislative  intent  and   why  the  legislation  is   being                 
  promulgated.   She  said  that  while  she  could  guess  at                 
  reasoning behind the  legislation, she is not  a legislative                 
  employee  and  does not  know  exactly what  the legislature                 
  wants  set forth.    Further, the  department does  not have                 
  statistics on runaways.                                                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford said  the legislature needs to  know the                 
  source  of  constitutional  challenges  and  what  kinds  of                 
  findings strengthen arguments against those challenges.   As                 
  an  example,  he  cited both  substantial  threat  to public                 
  health and safety  or to the minor.  He  then suggested that                 
  cases relative thereto  be reviewed and court  language used                 
  in effecting statutory corrections.  Ms. Reep explained that                 
  case law relating to juvenile delinquency and confinement of                 
  minors provides no solutions.  The end result is that if the                 
  state  is  going to  confine  a minor,  protections (notice,                 
  hearing, oversight by the court) must be in place.                           
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford asked if it would be possible to provide                 
  security for  a short  period, such  as three  days, without                 
  running the gamut of full constitutional  protections.   Ms.                 
  Reep said she  did not  know.  She  acknowledged that  other                 
  states have experimented  in this  area.  Co-chairman  Frank                 
  suggested that, in  the absence of  case law in Alaska,  the                 
  legislature do its best to  structure a system that provides                 
  greater safety and security for juveniles and let the courts                 
  rule  on  the  issue after  the  fact.    Ms. Reep  directed                 
  attention to page  2 of her  memo and noted provisions  that                 
  allow runaways in need of aid to be locked up for  24 hours.                 
  That  involves  going  before  the  court  and  obtaining  a                 
  probable cause finding that the child is in imminent danger,                 
  and there is no alternative to detention.  Ms. Reep stressed                 
  need to ensure due  process so that "people aren't  put away                 
  without a really good reason."  Current protections accorded                 
  delinquents attach  to the  fact that  delinquents face  the                 
  possibility of  incarceration.   They are  thus entitled  to                 
  counsel.  In  a delinquency case,  young people can be  held                 
  for 48 hours before they go to court.  Within that time, the                 
  state must prove probable cause.                                             
                                                                               
  Co-chairman  Frank  asked  if  a  minor  would  have  to  be                 
  represented by counsel  to be placed in a secure environment                 
  until  the  Division  of  Family  and Youth  Services  could                 
  provide alternative placement.   Ms. Reep said  that 24-hour                 
  detention  is  not  often  used.    However,  under  current                 
  practice, "Those minors are appointed counsel."                              
                                                                               
  Comments followed regarding cost concerns that have acted as                 
  roadblocks to past legislative action on this issue.                         
                                                                               
  In the course  of further discussion,  Ms. Reep attested  to                 
  cases involving equal protection  challenges in other states                 
  for   confinement  of  status  offenders  or  runaways  with                 
  juvenile delinquents.   Co-chairman Frank  asked if a  minor                 
  could be  placed in protective custody for a status offense.                 
  Ms. Reep said  she had not conducted  sufficient research to                 
  make a determination.  Many states  have done many different                 
  things.                                                                      
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Frank referenced  the administration's focus  on                 
  children and families and specifically noted funding for the                 
  children's  trust.    He then  questioned  the  department's                 
  unwillingness to  develop reasonable  methods of  addressing                 
  the  runaway problem.    Ms.  Reep  made  reference  to  the                 
  conference on juvenile justice, terming  it an effort by the                 
  administration to address the problem.   Many from the Dept.                 
  of Law are  involved.  Work is ongoing.  The intention is to                 
  develop solutions.    Senator Randy  Phillips stressed  that                 
  additional study  is not  the answer.   A  solution lies  in                 
  return of authority to parents.                                              
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford referenced an  earlier comment regarding                 
  48-hour detention,  prior to a  hearing, and asked  why that                 
  provision could not  be applied  to a status  offense.   The                 
  runaway could then be held in  protective custody.  The only                 
  way  out of  that custody would  be pick  up by a  parent or                 
  legal  guardian.    Ms.  Reep  explained  that  for  48-hour                 
  detention to occur,  probable cause  must be established  by                 
  someone, generally a  police officer, that the  juvenile has                 
  committed a crime.   Co-chairman Halford suggested  that the                 
  crime be  the status crime.   That would at least  provide a                 
  48-hour cooling off period.   Ms. Reep again cautioned  that                 
  necessary protections must  be in place.   Due process is  a                 
  constitutional right that must be addressed.                                 
                                                                               
  Further  comments followed  by  Co-chairman Frank  regarding                 
  protective  custody  situations.     Additional   discussion                 
  followed  regarding current  48-hour  detention of  juvenile                 
  delinquents.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford suggested  that failure of the  minor to                 
  remain in  a semi-secure  facility be  backed up  by 48-hour                 
  detention.  The youth would then  have the right to counsel,                 
  and  after  48 hours  a decision  would  be made  for court-                 
  directed placement.   Co-chairman Halford suggested that the                 
  48-hour period would serve as a  deterrent to running from a                 
  semi-secure facility.  It would further serve as a deterrent                 
  to avoidance of parental authority.                                          
                                                                               
  Ms. Reep commented  that one  of the findings  that must  be                 
  made by an  officer when he or  she detains a minor  is that                 
  detention  is  necessary   to  protect  the  minor   or  the                 
  community.   Under runaway statutes  (child in  need of  aid                 
  provisions) an individualized  finding that the minor  is in                 
  danger must also be made.                                                    
                                                                               
  Ms. Reep attested to overcrowding in juvenile facilities and                 
  noted that the state  does not have room to "detain the kids                 
  that need to be detained."  That raises a question regarding                 
  where  runaways would  be  placed.   That  is a  significant                 
  problem.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Co-chairman  Frank acknowledged  that, while  provisions for                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  semi-secure placement and enhanced  opportunity to prosecute                 
  those who contribute to the delinquency of a minor are steps                 
  in the right  direction, the bill does  not go as far  as it                 
  should.  He suggested that further exploration might uncover                 
  a reasonable next step, within constitutional parameters, to                 
  make  the  bill truly  meaningful  in getting  families back                 
  together.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Co-chairman Halford asked  that staff from the Dept.  of Law                 
  review proposed  findings.  Co-chairman Frank  stressed that                 
  the objective  is not  incarceration of  young people.   The                 
  intent is  to get  their attention  and get  them back  with                 
  their  families.     He   suggested  that   the  threat   of                 
  incarceration would  serve as a  deterrent, and 48  hours of                 
  protective custody might be beneficial.                                      
                                                                               
  Discussion followed regarding making the act of running away                 
  a crime.   Senator Randy Phillips reiterated need  to backup                 
  parental authority.                                                          
                                                                               
  DONNA SCHULZ, Juvenile Probation Officer, Division of Family                 
  and Youth  Services, Dept.  of Health  and Social  Services,                 
  came  before committee.   She  cited the following  areas as                 
  problematic:                                                                 
                                                                               
       1.   Movement  from  semi-secure  to  secure  placement                 
  would          entail  loss  of  $787.0 in  federal  moneys.                 
                 Funding    depends    upon    meeting    core                 
                 requirements  of  the  Juvenile  Justice  and                 
                 Delinquency  Prevention Act.    One of  those                 
                 requirements relates to status  offenders and                 
                 does  not allow  for  placement in  jails  or                 
                 detention facilities.                                         
                                                                               
       2.   Where  would  these  young  people  be   detained?                 
  Detention           facilities are already  overcrowded, and                 
                      there are waiting lists for placement of                 
                      juvenile  offenders.    The   impact  of                 
                      bringing runaways into the  system would                 
                      exacerbate the problem.                                  
                                                                               
       3.   Does placement of  runaways in existing facilities                 
  meet           the philosophical aim of the facility?                        
                                                                               
  Ms.   Schulz  voiced   support  for   semi-secure  placement                 
  provisions.    She  referenced   clear  delineation  between                 
  delinquents  and  status  offenders.    Co-chairman  Halford                 
  advised of his  understanding the  state would lose  federal                 
  funding   if   it   incarcerates   status   offenders   with                 
  delinquents.  He  then asked  if runaways could  be held  in                 
  protective custody for  48 hours in separate  confinement in                 
  the  same  facility.    Ms.  Schulz noted  that  Alaska  law                 
  allowing for a 12-hour hold in protective care is considered                 
  a  violation of  federal requirements.    The state  is only                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  allowed  a certain  percentage  of  violations  per  100,000                 
  before federal funds are lost.                                               
                                                                               
  Discussion  of federal  law,  renewal, and  possible changes                 
  followed  between  Co-chairman Frank  and  Ms. Schulz.   She                 
  acknowledged that  abused children  were the  focus of  1974                 
  federal law.                                                                 
                                                                               
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  Senator Rieger stressed need to differentiate between minors                 
  who run  away from  an  abusive home  environment and  those                 
  fleeing parental authority.  He then suggested that focusing                 
  on protective custody  for running  away from a  semi-secure                 
  facility might be a different question than the status crime                 
  of "being on  the street in the first place."  It would also                 
  help sort out the different classes of minors on the street:                 
  those who are there because they want the freedom and thrill                 
  of  street life  versus those  who are  fleeing a  dangerous                 
  situation at home.                                                           
                                                                               
  Ms. Schulz questioned prior comments indicating that only 10                 
  percent  of  runaways  are  fleeing  abuse  or  neglect  and                 
  suggested that the  percentage appears  very low.   National                 
  statistics evidence 67 to 69%.  She stressed need for better                 
  numbers at the state level and  voiced her estimate that the                 
  percentage is "at least 50 percent; it could be higher."                     
                                                                               
  Senator Zharoff noted that the problem with  runaways is not                 
  unique to one area of the state.  Constituents indicate that                 
  those advising minors of  their rights do not also  speak to                 
  responsibilities and  potential liabilities.  He  cited gang                 
  involvement as an example.                                                   
                                                                               
  Senator  Sharp  reiterated  need  to  prosecute  adults  who                 
  solicit   juveniles   and   provide   communal-type   living                 
  situations which encourage  them to  remain away from  home.                 
  That is where legal  emphasis must be placed rather  than on                 
  attempts  to incarcerate  minors.   Co-chairman Frank  noted                 
  that the  draft Finance  version makes  prosecution in  this                 
  area easier for the state.  He agreed to take a  second look                 
  at penalties for contributing to the delinquency of a minor.                 
  The bill was held in committee for further review.                           
                                                                               

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